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Re: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
Novobot does not use DTD referenced in RSS files, and works all right. Maybe
this is a misfeature, but at least it does not depend on third-party
companies, like Netscape, to produce headlines.
Gleb Dolgich
Proggle
http://www.proggle.com/novobot - The Web is News!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Barr" <jeff@vertexdev.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:35 AM
Subject: RE: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
> Well,
>
> Looks like I was wrong. Headline Viewer is indeed susceptible
> to the lack of a DTD. After clearing my machine's cache I can
> no longer load RSS files which reference the DTD. It turns
> out that the Microsoft XML DLL loads the DTD even if validation
> is disabled.
>
> Dang!
>
> I am contacting a friend at Netscape to see if he has a good
> idea of who to approach to get this fixed.
>
> Jeff;
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Barr [mailto:jeff@vertexdev.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:28 PM
> To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
>
>
> I just got back from an exceptionally exciting trip to California*
> to find all of this excitement about the missing DTD. My observations:
>
> 1. Just how stupid could Netscape be? When you issue a standard like
> RSS, you are committed to support it for a very long time. When you
> tell people world-wide to reference data on your site, you don't
> just delete it.
>
> 2. Fortunately, Headline Viewer still works. I turned off validation
> a long time ago in the name of efficiency.
>
> 3. I agree that redundancy is needed, but I am not sure how it would
> work given that the name is an URL. We would need a different kind
> of identifier which specifies what is needed but not where it is
> to be found. Is this a URI?
>
> 4. I suppose that we can take this as a pretty official statement
> from Netscape that they no longer claim any ownership of RSS. Its
> not like they showed any leadership in the area over the past 2
> years.
>
> 5. I get a lot of "How do I get my site in to Headline Viewer" requests.
> I used to point them to the My.Netscape document. I'll have to find
> another good one. I've got all kinds of syndication links at
> http://www.vertexdev.com/HeadlineViewer/links.html ; I will have to
> review them to find the best general treatise on creating a channel.
> If anyone has a good suggestion I am all ears.
>
> 6. Here is a cached copy of the quickstart document:
>
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:my.netscape.com/publish/help/quickstart
> .html+quickstart.html&hl=en
>
> 7. It seems to me that its about time for us to make some big leaps
> forward in the syndication world. This is our chance! No more waiting
> for leadership from anywhere else.
>
> Jeff;
>
> * - Sunday night I left Seattle and headed down to the Valley. Monday
> AM I found that I had forgotten my hair brush, and had to use the
> fork from room service as a comb. I figured that this would be the
> most exciting part of the week. Tuesday night our home LAN was
> hacked,and I spent a long time on the phone to my son getting it
> fixed. Then I figured this would be the exciting part. Wednesday
> night I flew to LA, landing in "0/0" weather. That was going to be the
> most exciting part. This morning I woke up in intense pain and
> took an ambulance to a hospital outside of LA. Turns out that I
> have a kidney stone (the second one I've had). I got to spend
> most of the day in the ER with a morphine drip in my arm. Flew
> home, and thankfully nothing else more exciting happened than
> the hospital visit. What a week!
>
> Jeff Barr - Vertex Development - (mailto:jeff@vertexdev.com)
> Address: 4610 191st Place NE. Redmond, WA 98074;
> Phone: Office: 425-868-4919 - Home: 425-836-5624
> IM: MSN: jeffscottbarr@hotmail.com; AIM: jeffscottbarr
> Homepage: http://www.vertexdev.com/~jeff
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