RE: [syndication] Re: Redundancy

["Jeff Barr" <jeff@vertexdev.com>]

Well,

Looks like I was wrong. Headline Viewer is indeed susceptible
to the lack of a DTD. After clearing my machine's cache I can
no longer load RSS files which reference the DTD. It turns
out that the Microsoft XML DLL loads the DTD even if validation
is disabled.

Dang!

I am contacting a friend at Netscape to see if he has a good
idea of who to approach to get this fixed.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barr [mailto:jeff@vertexdev.com]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:28 PM
To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndication] Re: Redundancy


I just got back from an exceptionally exciting trip to California*
to find all of this excitement about the missing DTD. My observations:

1. Just how stupid could Netscape be? When you issue a standard like
   RSS, you are committed to support it for a very long time. When you
   tell people world-wide to reference data on your site, you don't
   just delete it.

2. Fortunately, Headline Viewer still works. I turned off validation
   a long time ago in the name of efficiency.

3. I agree that redundancy is needed, but I am not sure how it would
   work given that the name is an URL. We would need a different kind
   of identifier which specifies what is needed but not where it is
   to be found. Is this a URI?

4. I suppose that we can take this as a pretty official statement
   from Netscape that they no longer claim any ownership of RSS. Its
   not like they showed any leadership in the area over the past 2
   years.

5. I get a lot of "How do I get my site in to Headline Viewer" requests.
   I used to point them to the My.Netscape document. I'll have to find
   another good one. I've got all kinds of syndication links at
   http://www.vertexdev.com/HeadlineViewer/links.html ; I will have to
   review them to find the best general treatise on creating a channel.
   If anyone has a good suggestion I am all ears.

6. Here is a cached copy of the quickstart document:


http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:my.netscape.com/publish/help/quickstart
.html+quickstart.html&hl=en

7. It seems to me that its about time for us to make some big leaps
   forward in the syndication world. This is our chance! No more waiting
   for leadership from anywhere else.

Jeff;

* - Sunday night I left Seattle and headed down to the Valley. Monday
    AM I found that I had forgotten my hair brush, and had to use the
    fork from room service as a comb. I figured that this would be the
    most exciting part of the week. Tuesday night our home LAN was
    hacked,and I spent a long time on the phone to my son getting it
    fixed. Then I figured this would be the exciting part. Wednesday
    night I flew to LA, landing in "0/0" weather. That was going to be the
    most exciting part. This morning I woke up in intense pain and
    took an ambulance to a hospital outside of LA. Turns out that I
    have a kidney stone (the second one I've had). I got to spend
    most of the day in the ER with a morphine drip in my arm. Flew
    home, and thankfully nothing else more exciting happened than
    the hospital visit. What a week!

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