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RE: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
Dave says,
> Jeff, couldn't you do a string substitution before passing the text
> over to the parser?
Unfortunately not. The API I use accepts and URL as an argument,
then asynchronously fetches and parses the XML, raising an event
when it is fully parsed. I can also use two lower-level APIs to separate
the two operations.
One idea I am looking in to is to "stuff" the DTD into the Windows
file cache. It turns out that you can take any local file and an URL,
and hand them both to the Windows Internet cache so that when a
request is made for the given URL the specified file is returned. So
I can ship the product with a local copy of the DTD, and then shove
it into the cache under the now-defunct Netscape URL.
Jeff;
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:26 PM
To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
Jeff, couldn't you do a string substitution before passing the text over to
the parser?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Barr" <jeff@vertexdev.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
> Well,
>
> Looks like I was wrong. Headline Viewer is indeed susceptible
> to the lack of a DTD. After clearing my machine's cache I can
> no longer load RSS files which reference the DTD. It turns
> out that the Microsoft XML DLL loads the DTD even if validation
> is disabled.
>
> Dang!
>
> I am contacting a friend at Netscape to see if he has a good
> idea of who to approach to get this fixed.
>
> Jeff;
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Barr [mailto:jeff@vertexdev.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:28 PM
> To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [syndication] Re: Redundancy
>
>
> I just got back from an exceptionally exciting trip to California*
> to find all of this excitement about the missing DTD. My observations:
>
> 1. Just how stupid could Netscape be? When you issue a standard like
> RSS, you are committed to support it for a very long time. When you
> tell people world-wide to reference data on your site, you don't
> just delete it.
>
> 2. Fortunately, Headline Viewer still works. I turned off validation
> a long time ago in the name of efficiency.
>
> 3. I agree that redundancy is needed, but I am not sure how it would
> work given that the name is an URL. We would need a different kind
> of identifier which specifies what is needed but not where it is
> to be found. Is this a URI?
>
> 4. I suppose that we can take this as a pretty official statement
> from Netscape that they no longer claim any ownership of RSS. Its
> not like they showed any leadership in the area over the past 2
> years.
>
> 5. I get a lot of "How do I get my site in to Headline Viewer" requests.
> I used to point them to the My.Netscape document. I'll have to find
> another good one. I've got all kinds of syndication links at
> http://www.vertexdev.com/HeadlineViewer/links.html ; I will have to
> review them to find the best general treatise on creating a channel.
> If anyone has a good suggestion I am all ears.
>
> 6. Here is a cached copy of the quickstart document:
>
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:my.netscape.com/publish/help/quickstart
> .html+quickstart.html&hl=en
>
> 7. It seems to me that its about time for us to make some big leaps
> forward in the syndication world. This is our chance! No more waiting
> for leadership from anywhere else.
>
> Jeff;
>
> * - Sunday night I left Seattle and headed down to the Valley. Monday
> AM I found that I had forgotten my hair brush, and had to use the
> fork from room service as a comb. I figured that this would be the
> most exciting part of the week. Tuesday night our home LAN was
> hacked,and I spent a long time on the phone to my son getting it
> fixed. Then I figured this would be the exciting part. Wednesday
> night I flew to LA, landing in "0/0" weather. That was going to be the
> most exciting part. This morning I woke up in intense pain and
> took an ambulance to a hospital outside of LA. Turns out that I
> have a kidney stone (the second one I've had). I got to spend
> most of the day in the ER with a morphine drip in my arm. Flew
> home, and thankfully nothing else more exciting happened than
> the hospital visit. What a week!
>
> Jeff Barr - Vertex Development - (mailto:jeff@vertexdev.com)
> Address: 4610 191st Place NE. Redmond, WA 98074;
> Phone: Office: 425-868-4919 - Home: 425-836-5624
> IM: MSN: jeffscottbarr@hotmail.com; AIM: jeffscottbarr
> Homepage: http://www.vertexdev.com/~jeff
> Resume: http://www.vertexdev.com/~jeff/real_jb_resume.html
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