Re: [syndication] Google News RSS

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

Isn't it a bit ironic that Google News, which is itself a scraped service,
is protecting itself from scrapers?

That said, others are putting ads in their RSS feeds, so why can't Goog?

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dror Matalon" <dror@zapatec.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [syndication] Google News RSS


> Julian,
>
> While I understand the frustration you need to keep an important point
> in mind.
> How is google going to make money if they provide the search results in
> RSS? Remember the publishers are happy to provide RSS feeds, so that you
> come to their web page and read the articles and expose you to ads.
> Google's search results are the information they "publish." if they give
> them away for free, they lost their only revenue model. Ain't going to
> happen.
>
> I'm not sure why the care about news.google.com seeing that they don't
> advertise there, but it could be either a matter of principal or they
> want to advertise at some point and don't want to have to chase everyone
> then.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dror
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:54:16PM +0100, Julian Bond wrote:
> > Well I finally got the Cease and Desist email from Google for scraping
> > Google news and then posting the results on a web site. So I guess I'll
> > have to take those feeds down and convert them to use Yahoo! News
> > search.
> >
> > I figure that using Gnews2rss[1] to feed into a personal aggregator is
> > not going to worry them too much. The problem seems to be posting the
> > results to a public website. If you do use gnews2rss, please host it
> > yourself.
> >
> > I shouldn't really complain as I'm fairly clearly breaking their terms.
> > However, I'm getting increasingly fed up that they don't have an XML
> > (RSS or Atom) output from their search results. It's also become pretty
> > disappointing that their SOAP API still only covers the main search
> > engine and hasn't been extended to support the other parts of Google.
> >
> > So can I recommend an email writing campaign to ask for RSS/Atom from
> > the Search functions. news-feedback@google.com The odd high profile blog
> > might not go amiss either.
> >
> > rgds
> > JB
> >
> > Here's the form email:-
> > --------------------------
> > Dear Webmaster,
> >
> > We recently became aware that your site offers a Google News feed to the
> > public.
> >
> > We appreciate your interest in Google News, but we do not currently
> > permit the creation of a news feed from the results on Google News, nor
> > do we permit webmasters to display Google News headlines on their sites.
> > We provide a means for monitoring Google News searches through Google
> > News Alerts at: http://www.google.com/newsalerts and encourage you to
> > use this service instead.
> >
> > For more information about acceptable uses of Google News, please see
> > our Terms of Use at
> > http://news.google.com/intl/en_us/terms_google_news.html .
> >
> > If you'd like to incorporate Google News search results into your site,
> > we ask that you do so by creating a link to the Google News main page or
> > Google News search results. Please feel free to use any of our Google
> > logos found at http://www.google.com/stickers.html .
> >
> > As always, your feedback and comments are very important to us. Please
> > let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
> >
> > Regards,
> > The Google Team
> > --------------------------
> >
> > [1] http://www.voidstar.com/gnews2rss.php
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