Re: Re: [syndication] RE: RFC: Clearing confusion for RSS, agreement for forward motion

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

Cool, I'm in favor of civility too.

On the other hand, I haven't dismissed anything you've said as being
repetitive, so if you want civility, practice it.

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rael Dornfest" <rael@oreilly.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [syndication] RE: RFC: Clearing confusion for RSS,
agreement for forward motion


> > From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
>
> > >>Your opinion is well known on this front.  Let's try and leave these
in
> > the past and keep moving forward.
> >
> > Rael, there's an imbalance here. We're still talking about your point of
> > view from August of last year, because of the takeover of the RSS name.
> > So until this matter is resolved, all points of view are relevant. Once
> > resolved, per my proposal, it's off-topic.
>
> Those are your rules; I believe the majority here was just glad to find a
> way forward rather than reopening seemingly unresolveable issues for the
> umpteenth tim.
>
> > Check out Jeff Barr's post, and be glad we didn't do to your work what
> > you did to ours.
>
> A rather loaded way to put it.  There was more to it than that, and you
very
> much know it.  Please let's not simply open the old suitcase and take out
> all the ugly bits.
>
> > I don't think you get it. RSS existed for quite some
> > time before you got interested in it, and then it was either your way or
> > the highway.
>
> Again, a mischaracterization of what actually happened.  I've already more
> than given credit to you and admitted having had nothing to do with RSS
> until 0.91 already existed, except as a user, that is.  All the rest is
very
> much a matter of record and very much _not_ my way or the highway.  I
could
> make similar accusations, but this road is getting really rocky really
fast
> and I don't think anyone wants to see it fall apart.
>
> > As concerned as your friends are about the future of their work, you
must
> > now have some sense of what the last eight months have been like for
those
> > who believe in the simple approach to RSS. It's been a humiliating
> > experience to have our work treated in such a brutal way. Solve
> > the problem
> > and then all is forgiven.
>
> And that's precisely what we're doing.  "I'd like everyone to keep
> discussing even if there are points of disagreement."  I'd like to add
> civility to this rule, if I may.
>
> > BTW, the poll results indicate that both communities feel the need to
move
> > on. Accepting my roadmap proposal is passing overwhelmingly on the
> > reallySimpleSyndication list and is the most popular choice on the
RSS-DEV
> > poll. What more input do you need?
>
> On the issue of naming, I'd like to hear from the users and developers.
>
> Rael
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>