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Re: [syndication] RFC: myPublicFeeds.opml
> You say it "isn't a good idea" and don't explain why.
But explain why it is a good idea. There's already a well-established practice
of using <link> tags. Why not make use of this already well engineered idea?
Why reinvent it?
> TBL says it isn't a good idea because the owner of the site owns the
> namespace, which makes sense, but robots.txt et al already offer features
> based on common file names.
So your rationale is because something else does a bad job it's fine to go
along?
> TBL is bucking a long-term trend here. Operating systems have always had
> known locations for special configuration files.
Or are these 'old habits that are hard to break'. Old dogs often can't learn
new tricks.
> Unless the architecture anticipates this, and has a single config file that
> can be used by multiple applications (the Registry on Windows, for example)
> then you end up with multiple files. Not much mystery to this. Even then
> it's the same solution, just moved down one level.
And everyone widely regards things like the registry as being a bad idea. You
don't even use it for your own programs (frontier, radio) so why force it on
others?
> You could argue that the user owns all namespaces, not just Web space, and
> then poof all software would disappear.
You can try all sorts of silly and dismissive arguments. They just don't work,
however.
> Joe, it's a hopeless argument. There have to be some config files. Have to
> be. Not an option. Try to get rid of them is like trying to boil the ocean.
Sure, bully everyone into thinking your half-baked idea is the 'one true, right
one'. Puh-leeze.
> PS: Bill Kearney thinks I'm a jerk and an idiot and should be outlawed or
> run out of town or strung up on a tree. Danny Ayers thinks everything should
> be in RDF. Maybe they can help themselves and save us the trouble of yet
> another recital of their favorite memes. Or not. ;->
No, I think you're an abusive asshole. But that's not germane to the argument.
The idea of having a predictable mechanism for site-wide (or 'context-wide')
discovery is a /great/ idea, one many people have proposed before. It's the
idea of forcing a fixed URL onto the situation, coupled with using a bad format,
that's the problem.
-Bill Kearney