Re: [syndication] Come on, let's move past this - Let's just choose a name!

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

Look, I made a fair offer, I gather you're not accepting it.

Not talking about "you" as in the RS-DEV group, which *does* appear to be
accepting it, I'm talking about you, Rael Dornfest.

By the way, the reallySimpleSyndication list, which would also be giving up
the right to use the name RSS, is showing its colors beautifully. 14-to-2,
they say "let's move on and clear up the confusion."

My opinion: RSS-* is terrible, just as bad as the mess we have now. I've
never seen a fork that happened that way. So damned confusing. So much to
explain to people who don't care.

And while I was writing this, yet another "RSS 1.0" post appeared here.
Maybe it's too late. Maybe RSS already means nothing. Yuck!

Dave



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rael Dornfest" <rael@oreilly.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: [syndication] Come on, let's move past this - Let's just choose
a name!


> Dave,
>
> > From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
>
> > >>So what of the folks, and I'm not just talking about RDF'ers, who
prefer
> > RSS-*?  They just have to go along with it?
>
> > The moral of the story is that we can ask people what they think, but if
> > you've been listening, they've been looking to you and me to settle
this.
>
> But it's just not up to you and me to settle this, can't you understand
> that?  You and I do _not_ own RSS, nor are we crowned prince or benevolent
> dictator.
>
> If so, we'd have settled it in the first conversation we had in April.
> You invited me into this community process and I've come to trust and
> believe in it.  I'm not being pedantic here, only democratic.
>
> Let's run that poll, see what it says first thing Monday, and move on with
> building an agreement that has some hope of passing by our respective
> authorities; the rest is, as we've seen, very much in-line.
>
> > You are getting a lot of patience from a lot of people, at least
> > ten months
> > worth, but come on Rael, the people are already voting and we've
> > spent a lot
> > of time haggling over what RSS is, when it was always perfectly clear
what
> > it actually is. How much more of this should we do? And why?
>
> We should do one single unbiased centralized vote in front of a community
of
> our peers and see what they say.  I can't believe you have a problem with
> this.
>
> Rael
>
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